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	<title>Comments on: Site review: Archdale UMC</title>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
		<link>http://www.mickmel.com/blog/200701/site-review-archdale-umc/comment-page-1/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It would only appear if there is some kind of weather alert.&lt;/em&gt;
Ahh, that&#039;s a little better.  Still, I agree that&#039;s it&#039;s probably best if left off.

&lt;em&gt;I agree on the staff page. Problem is they have no desire to provide me any bio info, which would make each page pretty blank.&lt;/em&gt;
I&#039;ve had the same problem.  I still go ahead and have separate pages for the linking.  Each of our staff has their own phone and e-mail, so at the very least each page has their name, department, title, phone, e-mail and picture.  A bit finishes it up, but it&#039;s not completely bare without one.

&lt;em&gt;Clicking on the Church logo to go home has been a thing Ive been meaning to do for a long time. I finanlly did it tonight.&lt;/em&gt;
Cool.

&lt;em&gt;I like my church tour. I originally wrote it with still pictures linking to different pages but I didnt like it.&lt;/em&gt;
I agree it has kind of a &quot;neat&quot; factor to it.  Maybe you could keep it and then also add some static pages?

&lt;em&gt;I have to force myself to not use CLICK HERE.&lt;/em&gt;
Me too.  All the time.

&lt;em&gt;I also take into consideration of someone hitting my sight (none home page) from a search engine. The page will frame itself.&lt;/em&gt;
I noticed that.  Very slick and it eliminates one major problem with frames.  Good move.

&lt;em&gt;I am also making it WAP capable. (only a couple page, but you have to start somewhere).&lt;/em&gt;
I&#039;ll have to try it on my phone later.

Mickey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It would only appear if there is some kind of weather alert.</em><br />
Ahh, that&#8217;s a little better.  Still, I agree that&#8217;s it&#8217;s probably best if left off.</p>
<p><em>I agree on the staff page. Problem is they have no desire to provide me any bio info, which would make each page pretty blank.</em><br />
I&#8217;ve had the same problem.  I still go ahead and have separate pages for the linking.  Each of our staff has their own phone and e-mail, so at the very least each page has their name, department, title, phone, e-mail and picture.  A bit finishes it up, but it&#8217;s not completely bare without one.</p>
<p><em>Clicking on the Church logo to go home has been a thing Ive been meaning to do for a long time. I finanlly did it tonight.</em><br />
Cool.</p>
<p><em>I like my church tour. I originally wrote it with still pictures linking to different pages but I didnt like it.</em><br />
I agree it has kind of a &#8220;neat&#8221; factor to it.  Maybe you could keep it and then also add some static pages?</p>
<p><em>I have to force myself to not use CLICK HERE.</em><br />
Me too.  All the time.</p>
<p><em>I also take into consideration of someone hitting my sight (none home page) from a search engine. The page will frame itself.</em><br />
I noticed that.  Very slick and it eliminates one major problem with frames.  Good move.</p>
<p><em>I am also making it WAP capable. (only a couple page, but you have to start somewhere).</em><br />
I&#8217;ll have to try it on my phone later.</p>
<p>Mickey</p>
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		<title>By: Mike.J.In.NC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike.J.In.NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 07:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments Mickey.  Very insightful.

The weather was there for good intentions.  It would only appear
if there is some kind of weather alert.  After working on the site for
awhile tonight, I got annoyed by the marquee, so I removed it until I
can find another obvious, but less obtrusive place to put it.  I
also remembered my parents weather alert radio screaming all the time.

I agree on the staff page.  Problem is they have no desire to
provide me any bio info, which would make each page pretty blank.

The church picture is a sore point with my website QC person. (ie my wife)
She loves it which means...  I am planning on that picture
being a dynamic picture that rotates, but it also will be
seasonal, ie New Years, Easter, Christmas, etc.  I just now figured
out how I&#039;m going to do it.  Now to find the time.

Clicking on the Church logo to go home has been a thing I&#039;ve been
meaning to do for a long time.  I finanlly did it tonight.

My menu groupings have been an agrevation for me.  I have Visitors and
ABOUT US.  But the more I think about it, the more they are synonymous.
I need more work on that.  I originally had my menu items HOME and VISITOR
clickable, but noticed that some people clicked on it and didn&#039;t
give the menu a chance to drop.  Another argument of making Visitors clickable
and having an intermediate page is adding the extra clicks.  Why click,
 then go to another page to click again.  It can go both ways.

I agree, I need more info on alot of topics and I like the idea
of keyword linking to other areas of the site.  I have used it some
in the past, but not consistently.

I like my church tour.  I originally wrote it with still pictures
linking to different pages but I didn&#039;t like it.  I just like the idea
that I can walk down (mouse over) the halls (ok, I know, it&#039;s a still picture),
but I can see what halls look like, the stair cases, the rooms,
from different areas{sanctuary}).  Somone could look at that, then
walk anywhere in the church they wanted the first time they came.

I have to force myself to not use &quot;CLICK HERE&quot;.

I agree with keeping a site clean and simple.  I am working on
cleaning up and streamlining mine.  I use stuff not because I can,
but because I&#039;m a geeky programmer.  Ok, because I can.

As far as frames.  I added a drop down list on the left sidebar.
This dropdown is created dynamically by an ASP function I wrote
that reads my javascript menu file (not as javascript, but as a
flatfile)) so that it is always accurate without me having to
manually keep it up-to-date.(Site map is created the
same way).  I don&#039;t know about yahoo or other search engines, but this
allowed Webside story to scan my sight for my search.  I also take into consideration of someone hitting my sight (none home page) from a search engine.  The page will frame itself.  ie http://www.archdaleumc.com/officers/staff.asp.  I also have a button on each page to &quot;Add to Favoriate&quot; which work frame the page also.

I am slowly adding ALL content in my database (MSAccess, I know that&#039;s
another story) so that I have a mini self written CMS.  I am also
making it WAP capable. (only a couple page, but you have to start somewhere).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments Mickey.  Very insightful.</p>
<p>The weather was there for good intentions.  It would only appear<br />
if there is some kind of weather alert.  After working on the site for<br />
awhile tonight, I got annoyed by the marquee, so I removed it until I<br />
can find another obvious, but less obtrusive place to put it.  I<br />
also remembered my parents weather alert radio screaming all the time.</p>
<p>I agree on the staff page.  Problem is they have no desire to<br />
provide me any bio info, which would make each page pretty blank.</p>
<p>The church picture is a sore point with my website QC person. (ie my wife)<br />
She loves it which means&#8230;  I am planning on that picture<br />
being a dynamic picture that rotates, but it also will be<br />
seasonal, ie New Years, Easter, Christmas, etc.  I just now figured<br />
out how I&#8217;m going to do it.  Now to find the time.</p>
<p>Clicking on the Church logo to go home has been a thing I&#8217;ve been<br />
meaning to do for a long time.  I finanlly did it tonight.</p>
<p>My menu groupings have been an agrevation for me.  I have Visitors and<br />
ABOUT US.  But the more I think about it, the more they are synonymous.<br />
I need more work on that.  I originally had my menu items HOME and VISITOR<br />
clickable, but noticed that some people clicked on it and didn&#8217;t<br />
give the menu a chance to drop.  Another argument of making Visitors clickable<br />
and having an intermediate page is adding the extra clicks.  Why click,<br />
 then go to another page to click again.  It can go both ways.</p>
<p>I agree, I need more info on alot of topics and I like the idea<br />
of keyword linking to other areas of the site.  I have used it some<br />
in the past, but not consistently.</p>
<p>I like my church tour.  I originally wrote it with still pictures<br />
linking to different pages but I didn&#8217;t like it.  I just like the idea<br />
that I can walk down (mouse over) the halls (ok, I know, it&#8217;s a still picture),<br />
but I can see what halls look like, the stair cases, the rooms,<br />
from different areas{sanctuary}).  Somone could look at that, then<br />
walk anywhere in the church they wanted the first time they came.</p>
<p>I have to force myself to not use &#8220;CLICK HERE&#8221;.</p>
<p>I agree with keeping a site clean and simple.  I am working on<br />
cleaning up and streamlining mine.  I use stuff not because I can,<br />
but because I&#8217;m a geeky programmer.  Ok, because I can.</p>
<p>As far as frames.  I added a drop down list on the left sidebar.<br />
This dropdown is created dynamically by an ASP function I wrote<br />
that reads my javascript menu file (not as javascript, but as a<br />
flatfile)) so that it is always accurate without me having to<br />
manually keep it up-to-date.(Site map is created the<br />
same way).  I don&#8217;t know about yahoo or other search engines, but this<br />
allowed Webside story to scan my sight for my search.  I also take into consideration of someone hitting my sight (none home page) from a search engine.  The page will frame itself.  ie <a href="http://www.archdaleumc.com/officers/staff.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.archdaleumc.com/officers/staff.asp</a>.  I also have a button on each page to &#8220;Add to Favoriate&#8221; which work frame the page also.</p>
<p>I am slowly adding ALL content in my database (MSAccess, I know that&#8217;s<br />
another story) so that I have a mini self written CMS.  I am also<br />
making it WAP capable. (only a couple page, but you have to start somewhere).</p>
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